Schumacher in the NY Times, Me on NPR

I have always said that I'm not sure how great of a church planter I am, but I do a great job of getting media attention. I just completed an interview with KBIA, Columbia's NPR affiliate. The story should run in the next couple of weeks. That will be the second time we've been on NPR which could brand us as heretics by some or really blessed by others. But, I can never say that I've been featured by anything with the New York Times. My buddy Eric Schumacher has, and it's now on YouTube. Check it out below: